and also by that time you had on the courthouse steps in any city around here -- around washington -- you had these houses being auctioned once every three minutes basically. so we could see at that point that the one important -- first of all both of us thought that it could be as important as 1929. i had just been reading john kenneth galbraith's book on '29 and andrew's father covered the crash of 1929 so we could see these -- the rumblings and though we better jump on this now. and that with a documentary like this we could actually tie together what was happening in a place like baltimore with wall street. did you do next? >> well we started talking to people. we'd started, i mean months -- what we do as journalist is we're, you know, we're trained to master, you know, get in touch with the subject very quickly and start to look around to see who was doing interesting reporting about this and we came across mark pittman at bloomberg who had been writing about this before really anyone else and who really spotted what was happening. and we also started going to baltimore to, you k